@Roger Out This definitely wasn't 20,000 feet it was right over my home boys house. We were in his swimming pool and that thing flew right over us. But I get what you're saying on missions.

You won't hear it at 20k ft.

@Conrado FMC_Ny Oh I hear ya, stopping the line was a political move rather than a tactical one. Lockheed/Airforce knew the F-35 program would have a rough start so they did what they could to make sure congress and foreign buyers wouldnt have the option to cancel the F-35, and instead buymore F-22 off an active line. While that sucks, its understandable, congress usually lacks the stones to cancel a whole programs but will knock units off the back end. Sadly the backend is the good part, where you get economies of scale, the benefit of actual real world data, efficiency curves... The airforce was fighting to keep the backend on the F-35 buy and still is, willing to cut any other plane to keep the F-35 buy large.

@link10909 I understand what u said, but the f-35 became super expensive, expensive maintenance, and there are a lot of flaws... but the f35 program costed 1.5 trillion. The military could’ve made and maintained thousands of f22

Stealth coating was hard to maintain, the fight cost per hour was high, only potentially replaced one legacy airframe, and cost per airframe was high (partly due to having two engines). So they cut the program and decided that the F-35 program along side the lesser number of f22 airframes would meet the airforce's air superiority needs. They were hoping the f-35 program would address some of the f22 draw backs and be as effective due to new technology. Easier to maintain coating, cheaper per plane (one engine), lower per flight hour cost, and replacing multiple airframes.

@TheOne111 it's just who gets missile lock first now it seems, miles away from your enemy

Just talking exercises. Youre right though. US hasnt dealt with another air threat since ww2 but those techniques would still be used today if so. Just a lot faster paced

@The Other Orange "at lease the one is an accident". Yours is fabricating, which is all trumptards ever have 2nd time.. why on earth would he do that.

@Roger Out Better to blurt then sell... At least the one is an accident.

Why on earth would he do that? If I recall correctly, it was the reality star was the one invited our enemy to the white house and accidentally blurt out classified information